TF2 Blog said:

...we've got a new game mode with five new arenas for it...

This might mean that it's one big map, with many areas inside it.

roboninja said:

Oh god, there will be bullets everywhere. Might be a good time to work on my Medic achievements, though. I fucking suck at playing medic.

It's the only class I don't suck at.

Codicier said:

Day 2 is up: [url]http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm[/url]

Oh shit, those achievements are hilarious (no descriptions, just names so far). Valve are great at that.



Also, the main use I see for the KGB is with the shotgun. A kill with the gloves, quick change to shotgun and you might get a couple more kills. The minigun would only be useful if there are a bunch of enemies around, as it takes too long to get going.

Vulture said:

haha, i cant wait to see what those descriptions will be.
[IMG]http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/1stmatey/sanvich.jpg[/IMG]

Killing scouts, duh. :p

Edit: This is another copy & paste from EvAv:

[IMG]http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/images/AchievementIcons/tf_heavy_eat_sandwiches.png[/IMG] Konspicuous Konsumption
"tf_heavy_eat_sandwiches.png"

New taunt, in which you eat a sandwich? If so, that would be awesome.

Lint of Death said:

With so many fewer people playing Pyros, I can finally maybe catch up on unlocking all those juicy weapons.



Curiously, I've been playing Heavy a lot lately on account of the fact that a lot of teams I've been on - including a lot of EvAv ones - had none. I really enjoy it, especially getting into 2 or 3 vs. 1 fights where I'm the one with the fists :D

All these melee achievements must have you giddy, Lint.

Hemalin said:

If the effect isn't reduced by range and it works on ubered enemies(even if it doesn't do any damage) Natascha sounds pretty awesome to me.

i'm not sold yet, ill have to see how much it slows enemies down, if its only 25%, then it can be a useful tool for teamplay, but not so good at cleaning a room out. i dunno, i might end up loving it when i start to use it:)

Hemalin said:

If the effect isn't reduced by range and it works on ubered enemies(even if it doesn't do any damage) Natascha sounds pretty awesome to me.

oh also, the update says that it slows players if they take damage, so that would mean it doesn't have an effect on ubered players.... unless you read somewhere that it does.

i dunno, decreased damage doesn't seem to fit into the "heavy" philosophy.

edit:the article says its good for taking out fleeing ememies, i dunno seems to me that most maps and gametypes, if an enemy is fleeing than you have already won the control point, fought off intelligence gatherers etc.... if they run away and heal than job well done for the moment. i would rather it would help against soldiers. it will hurt against pyros. now as it is, i can take out a pyro that gets the jump on me, and usually be at 25% or less health and burning, if i were to take a damage hit for my gun then i'm fried.

Vulture said:

oh also, the update says that it slows players if they take damage, so that would mean it doesn't have an effect on ubered players.... unless you read somewhere that it does.

i dunno, decreased damage doesn't seem to fit into the "heavy" philosophy.

edit:the article says its good for taking out fleeing ememies, i dunno seems to me that most maps and gametypes, if an enemy is fleeing than you have already won the control point, fought off intelligence gatherers etc.... if they run away and heal than job well done for the moment. i would rather it would help against soldiers. it will hurt against pyros. now as it is, i can take out a pyro that gets the jump on me, and usually be at 25% or less health and burning, if i were to take a damage hit for my gun then i'm fried.

Damn, there goes slowing down the charging ubered pyro. One of the more annoying things is having a demo or soldier pop in and out from a corner to shoot a rocket at you. If the slow down enables me to kill those that'd be nice. The new gun seems like a better defensive tool(which is how I prefer to play heavy), slowing down enemies allowing soldiers or SGs to more easily kill them.

Wasson said:

speaking as someone who plays heavy quite a bit...Natasha would be made of win as long as it has a faster spin-up time as well.

what will replace the shotgun?

Faster spin-up would most definitely help, especially against charging pyros.

roboninja said:

Faster spin-up would most definitely help, especially against charging pyros.

only if it slowed them down more than 25%;)